[Led Zeppelin's "Thank You" plays briefly then fades out]
Anne: Hi, I'm Anne.
Melanie: And I'm Melanie.
A: And you're listening to Just a Second a Jump, Little Children fandom podcast.
M: Where the topical discussion is beyond belief.
A: Today is our Thanksgiving episode, so we asked listeners to send in or otherwise contribute reasons why they're thankful for Jump, Little Children. So we've got a couple of them here but we wanted to talk a little bit first about, you know we've already talked about the fact that there's a tour coming up in December and they also recently announced three additional dates in December, two of which are repeats of the Licmag show, or Licorice Tea Demos and Magazine performed in their entirety. And also there's the special Vertidark show which is Vertigo and Between the Dim and the Dark performed in their entireties, entirety. So that's happening! We're just, we're sure everyone already knows about that but in case you didn't now you do. Are you excited about the December shows?
M: Am I -- the, yeah, the ones that were already announced.
A: Let's start over!
M: [loudly]The ones that were...[laughs]
A: No, we can't do that! [laughs] You can't complain about them adding three more shows! [laughter]
M: Well, I'm not going to any of those, so...
A: I don't care!
M: I'm not excited about those. [laughs]
A: Well, fair enough. It's sort of interesting now that I think about it, that you know, right after Thanksgiving we've got our, I guess it's sort of become traditional, the December Jump shows and it all just sort of, of course it means it's an extremely busy year. But following the Thanksgiving warm and fuzzies and we've got the miscellaneous December holidays warm and fuzzies with Jump shows, followed by the new year. So it has become a tradition. And I guess it all works with that sort of, I guess, Thanksgiving spirit. It might sound a little weird to be like why are you thankful for Jump, Little Children? [laughs] It sounds kind of cultish, I guess. Do you think that it kind of sounds like that?
M: Not really.
A: Not really, okay. I feel like from an outsider perspective if you don't already have reasons to be thankful for Jump, Little Children you're probably like what the heck is going on? [laughter]
M: Yeah, but are any outsiders really listening to this podcast?
A: No, no. I mean, that's what I was also thinking. Nobody's listening or contributing that doesn't really understand that feeling. And I do think that is, as we've sort of had a running theme for this podcast, that is just part of this fandom experience. And I think there's probably plenty of other fandoms were they're thankful for being in that fandom, knowing the songs, or whatever other artistic material is put out, knowing the other fans and having the experiences that go along with being at shows. So I think anybody can understand that. But I like to think that there's maybe a special strand to it all when it comes to Jump, Little Children. Particularly now that they, you know, after their hiatus they've come back and now we sort of get to re-appreciate them again and in different ways, now, so.
M: Kind of ups the gratitude after we've not had them for awhile and now that they're back, and...
A: Yeah! And I think we have also touched on that before. And there's the fact that since they're touring less I think that makes, I don't know, I think it makes the existing dates they do have now that they are trying to be on the road less and maybe compact things into shorter periods of time, it does make that a little more special. Cuz when you're in college and they're going to be back in four months anyway, it's like oh, we're just here living in the moment! So I think it sort of does have that effect.
A: But a lot of this thankfulness involves people looking back at their first times seeing shows and meeting other people and, I guess, sort of the nostalgia attitude as well. There is someone who is thankful for the nostalgia part in here, in our submissions. So do we want to get to that part?
M: I guess...
A: And can go ahead and do that.
M: ...we should jump right in, yeah.
A: Ha ha. Ok, I'll start off with Kristin Carter's contribution. "I'm thankful for jump for finding me at a time in my life when I needed to feel connected. To anyone or anything. The music and the people changed my life. I found out that there are people in the world that love the same things I do and I'll never be alone again. And some of the lyrics made me realize that some of my fears and feelings were not experiences that made me different or isolated me, but were really experiences others have felt. B-13 in particular made me understand the universality of where I was and what I was living. And I've never felt alone in the world since. I can't begin to describe what this band has meant to me. I feel proud to bring new friends to shows, and see old friends. Jump pulled me through a difficult time in my life and I'll always, always feel grateful. For the music, the friends, the shows, and the release from perceived isolation when I was young and alone. This band gave me a place to feel ok and I'll never be the same!" So thank you Kristen. I think I can relate to a lot of that.
M: Yeah, me too. The next submission we have is from a parent. I'm going to going to keep their name confidential because they include some sensitive information about a child and I'm, as a parent myself I have become really aware of like, you know, being public about my children and they're very aware of what I post about them so I just wanted to say that before this as a disclaimer. So she writes, "Why I'm grateful for Jump, Little Children because they saved me. My son has autism and during his worst days of hurting himself and screaming, I would play Jump and find my sanity my son used to call it ‘mommy's music.' The greatest day is when I got to tell them and thank them for their music." And as...
A: What, oh sorry.
M: Yeah, I can relate to that as a parent myself and you know if you're a parent it's highly isolating these days to be a parent. It's very hard to, you know, reach out to people and especially if you're a parent of a child with any developmental disabilities, physical disabilities, any type of thing that's been stigmatized by our society. So it's great to have something that can give you peace of mind and I loved that Jump can give people peace of mind like that.
A: And the next submission is from someone we know, named Ramona Hustek.
M: My mother. [laughs]
A: Yeah. She says, "I would never have learned to play the cello, is one! I would never have found all the other bands we've seen and met, Cary Ann, Michael Trent, Owen, Josh Kaler. There are so many reasons! Above all my own daughter turned me on to Jump which led to so many wonderful experiences and memories I can't even begin! I can't imagine now, life without them present. I would go to every show if I could. Will Hoge, The Features, so many. So many good times. I feel at home with them, that's the best way I can put it." And I really like that last line, "I feel at home with them," because we do! We do feel at home. We feel at home at the shows. We feel at home just in that sort of orbit, if you will.
M: Yeah. It -- I know for every show that I go to it's like coming home.
A: Yeah it is.
M: It's a great feeling.
A: Yeah. It's hard to describe if you don't feel that already but I think if you do, you know, you're like, yeah, absolutely.
M: Yeah. This next one is from Amy Cox. It says, "Hi there Anne!"
A: Hi, Amy! [laughter]
M: "I couldn't resist answering this LOADED question. I'm answering in list form as it's the only way that I thought I could share all of my thoughts. I'm so thankful for Jump, Little Children because they were one of the first local bands that I saw at Ziggy's in Winston-Salem that truly defined ART. They caught my attention immediately because they were doing something so different. They had beautiful smart pop songs and sexy spoken word hip-hop songs. They defied normal. Following this band made me determined to work in music, in a sense, they gave me my career. They were accessible, available and open to their community of fans more than any other bands that I knew at the time. They even cultivated relationships with fans. Lyrically and instrumentally they always took me on a journey. They gave me chills EVERY single time I saw them, still do to this day. In my humble opinion they never compromised themselves for their art. Oh, I could go on and on."
A: And then there's a heart.
M: There's a heart. [laughter]
A: So, that's great. I really loved that one. I love them all but, you know.
M: I know. I love how these get, they get right to the point, like about the the band cultivating relationship with the fans, you know, getting to have a sense of community with other fans. I just, this whole fandom makes me feel warm and fuzzy. [laughs]
A: Yeah, and that is a great point about not only do we have our fan community, we also have sort of the interplay with the band themselves at the shows, which we've talked about before. And I think, I have a feeling that there's not really necessarily all of that happening with a lot of other bands. [laughs]
A: I don't think that's necessarily what a lot of bands prioritize.
A: And certainly, it's very unique I think. It's got its ups and downs at times, I'm sure, but it is something that I for one really, really appreciate. Okay next we have Alison Kendrick, our friend Alison. So I've got to do my best Alison, here. I'm not sure if I can quite pull it off but let's see. "I feel so corny writing this, but dammit this band has totally changed my life so I should, right? Right. Ok! Why am I thankful for Jump, Little Children? I'm not a very consistent person. My tastes change and my obsessions come and go pretty easily. But this band has been one of the few constants in my life for 20 years (um, WHOA) strong now. It cracks me up that I can still get completely swept up in the music and experience a good old-fashioned concert high at shows! Add to that the fact that I get to work with them now, and how that is SUCH a dream come true. Seriously. You know how sometimes you get a peek behind a curtain and find it was mostly smoke and mirrors? Not here. Learning how the guys actually *are* the most genuine, most kind, most hilarious, most just...amazing human beings currently roaming the planet has been an extra special treat. I love them, and all the friends and reasons to travel and experiences and marvelous memories they've given me. And most of all: I'm thankful to know the fun isn't over! Yeah! Let's DO this, December!" Ok. [laughter] I hope I did that justice, cuz that was really good. That is also a great point: the fun is not over; there's still stuff to be done.
M: Yep. I'm so, I'm so glad for however long they decide to do this.
A: Yeah, I mean yeah, it really just cause you to appreciate that this is even happening to begin with. [laughter]
A: And it's sort of amazing to think it's been four years since they came back from hiatus. And since then we've had two albums, and they are definitely planning another album, which is you know that's all pretty amazing.
M: All right, this next one is from Vanessa Moody-Laird. "The music is incredible, but what I'm most thankful for is the community that has been built upon and around their music. Some of my most favorite people and some of the best friends I have in my life I know through this band's music. I've been a fan for more than two decades - for more than half of my life I've been an Opiate. Some of the relationships I have through this community have been part of my life for just as long. In a way, it's "home" for me - the music and people, plus now the music isn't just the soundtrack to my life but to my kids' lives as well. Also, now my kids have connections in this community. It's like a big extended family with the bonus of having the best music for all our family get togethers." And then there's a little...
A: Rock hands!
M: Rock hands and a heart...
A: Sparkly heart!
M: Sparkly heart emoji.
A: Yeah, I related to all that except for the part about the kids. [laughs] All of that. It's like yeah, this has been half my life!
M: Yeah, I was think about that the other day, cuz I got into them a like, nineteen? Twenty? Something like that?
M: And I'm almost 40 now. That's like half my life.
A: [crosstalk]I think that's the case for a lot of people.
M: And a lot of other people, it's the same. And that's a long time to like anything.
M: And I think it speaks volumes that there are people who still like them after so long. Cuz it's hard. It's hard to like something for that long.
A: And to like the new stuff also.
M: And still be like, you know, super excited about everything.
A: Yeah. It is pretty interesting.
A: And there was something I was going to add to that but I forgot what it was. [laughter] Oh well! So next we have Gina McBride. "The fact that we get to share why we are thankful for this band makes me thankful! The off chance that I saw this band on a side stage at a concert literally changed my life and expanded my love for music and for that I am so very thankful. If it wasn't for Jump I would never have met Hannah Natour[Anne: I think that's pronounced correctly; I'm sorry if I said ‘Natour' wrong] who has become one of my oldest friends and frankly one of my favorite humans. Our love for this band was the foundation of what is one of my most treasured friendships that expands so far beyond a favorite song or going to a show. As a bonus Brooke Watkins is one of the most delightful people that I am so glad I struck up a friendship with and all of that is because of this band that we are so thankful for!! Now, the music that can take you back to a favorite memory or speaks to you when no one else can get through, for that I am thankful. Finally, these 5 guys that create magic on and off stage and brighten each and every one of our lives one way or another, for that I am so thankful. There is so much more but I know y'all have a ton to go through so thank you for giving us this opportunity!"
M: I like that people have found really close friends.
A: Oh yeah!
M: Because of this band.
A: Yeah, I know I have!
M: Yeah, me too, Anne! [laughs]
A: Yeah, it's weird how that works.
M: Yeah, there's so many -- I have a hard time making friends and this band has given me a, built in friends almost! it's like you get to, you get talking to people in the crowd and before you know it you're like, you know, great friends.
A: I'm glad you said that because I've felt that that's happened to me quite a bit, where I've met someone at a show, I see them a couple times and then eventually, you know, we're just friends. That's just how it works and sometimes even after the reunion, it's just like it was, you know, 2001 or whenever we really last hung out. It's quite an interesting phenomenon. I know I've talked about that before. But yeah, I sort of feel like, I wonder sometimes what would have happened if I hadn't come across Jump when I was in college. Because I didn't have a typical college experience. I didn't live on campus, I didn't go to parties, and I mean, you know, imagine that. I didn't have, I basically didn't have a social life at college outside of going to jump shows and I think that actually worked out fine because I went to a lot of Jump shows. [laughter] But I wonder sometimes, you know, what would have happened otherwise cuz I don't really like doing that much social stuff. That's just not really what my personality is but I do enjoy the Jump social stuff. And sometimes there's been stuff that's strung out from that, like a couple degrees of separation, but it is sort of like a friend-making machine. We all know what it feels like to go to a show. We all have that in common and enjoying the music and just that experience. So it -- and that's just sort of part of why this is such a great community.
M: Yeah, and plus back in the day when we were all going to the same shows and we would always see the same people over and over, it kind of lends itself to being easy to make friends that way.
M: Cuz you're like, oh, I know you! I saw you at blah blah blah.
A: Yeah, there's people I haven't ever actually met, per se, or I don't remember meeting them but I know them. I'm like, oh, ok now we're -- yeah, I recognize you. And it's just sort of, part of that home feeling.
A: These are all the people that are supposed to be here!
M: [laughs] Yep!
A: Let's get started. Everyone's here now. [laughs]
M: Alright, this one's from Alexis Nieto Cullen. It says, "I am thankful for JLC for allowing me to hang on to a tiny thread of my young adulthood by giving me an excuse to flippantly drop everything and head to Charleston each December once again. Back in the day, I used to ask my relatives for money towards the trip and I would work all the days others didn't want to (Day after Christmas, New Year's Day) just so I could leave in between. Here I am a dozen years later, no longer soliciting money for the trip, but still striking deals to get the days off (I will be working 4pm to midnight on New Year's Eve, thank you very much) to have the time off. I am also grateful that I have been able to turn my partner into such a fan that he doesn't mind joining me on these adventures. He even danced with me last year during "By The Way They Dance" and I was completely shocked. If you open your heart to them this band just has that effect on people." Aw.
A: Yeah, I think that was an interesting point about working toward getting the time and the money to be able to do Jump related things because I think that was something people experienced during college. We've got to scrape together the money sometimes to make sure we could get to such and such, could get the gas money maybe hotel money depending on where you were going, and you know getting the time off which I, that's really more my thing now is do I have the vacation hours? Have I asked for the vacation hours off in time. Ha! But stuff like that where you're willing to make these sacrifices and go to that effort and be a patron or whatever it is, because you are thankful and grateful and what have you for these experiences. And like you touched on, we want to help to keep that going for as long as it possibly can.
M: Yeah I like, I like that she has gotten her partner into them.
M: I just wonder how many male partners have gotten into Jump because their girlfriend or wife or friend had drug them to the shows.
A: Yeah, I wonder about that too. I think we talked, either on here or somewhere, I think someone overheard either Ward or Evan saying something like we're going to start a support group for the men or [laughter] for the male fans that get dragged -- of course they don't get dragged, they all, everyone I know who has done this, you know, or at least they have expressed that they enjoy it, so. [laughs]
M: I know I dragged, when I was seeing my husband, I was like, you're going to see this band, you don't have a say in it. [laughs]
A: Deal with this.
M: Deal with it. Fortunately he liked them. And then he proposed to me at a Dock Street. So that's, that's a reason I'm thankful! [laughter] But yeah. It's fun when we can share things with our loved ones.
A: Yeah! Next we have Hannah Natour. I hope I'm saying that correctly. Please feel free to punch me if I pronounce Natour incorrectly. "Jump Little Children. My favorite boy band. Without a doubt, you're going to get many stories about how Jump was a catalyst for people falling in love and getting married or meeting their BFF. And though I am grateful for the many friends I've gained through Jump fandom, there's more. Jump Little Children have ensured that I've remained young at heart. I can slip right back into my college days simply by putting on a pair of headphones. I can even find a recorded show on the internet and say, "I was there!". The nostalgia is real. In college, Jump, Little Children brought my friends together for multiple concerts and for a couple of hours, we forgot about the next day's Biology test. Now, we are bill-paying adults with kids who have to be at work the next morning. But still, for a few hours, I can take my mind off of politics and soccer practice. I'm thankful I got to experience my first celebrity crush on someone talented and seemingly(Anne: ‘seemingly' being in, what are those called? Melanie: Parentheses. Anne: Parentheses.) seemingly wholesome. And I'm not telling which band member it was." [laughter]
M: Oh, come on!
A: We can't, we can't figure out who that is! Which one of them is wholesome? [laughs] Seemingly wholesome.
M: Seemingly! I like the seemingly. It's funny.
A: Yeah, the seemingly in parentheses, yes. [laughter] As far as we know, as far as...so yeah, I thought that was great too, because the nostalgia is a really good point. That's what I was, that's what I was alluding to earlier talking about being thankful for that. Because that is a great feeling to be able to look up shows maybe on Archive.org and say, yeah I remember this show, I remember when such-and-such happened, and just to listen to that anew and to step back into that feeling when you're at at show it sort of does feel like going back in time. But at the same time realizing that, as Alison said, there is still more to come!
A: And yeah, it's also fun to forget about going to work the next day. [laughter] Or, at the time, the Biology test!
M: Yeah. There were times when I didn't even study cuz I was at a Jump show. I was like, oh, it'll be fine. [laughs]
A: Yeah I mean, I don't remember much about, I don't think that all that much happened to me in university years other than going to Jump shows.
M: Yeah, yeah.
A: It wasn't very exciting.
M: That was my, like, you know, other people go to parties or clubs.
M: Or whatever. I was going to Jump shows.
M: That was my thing.
A: Yeah, I mean that was mine as well and I sort of felt for a little while that maybe that's weird but I've come to terms with that's what it was like. I don't really want to be somebody who went to a bunch of parties. That's just not really my personality or what I enjoyed. I think one thing you realize, the older you get, is it's ok just to do the things you enjoy.
A: You don't have to force yourself to do things that other people seem to think are fun.
M: Yeah. Do the things that you like to do, not what other people think you need to do.
A: Exactly. Now, we also have -- we were reading these in order of submission and we also had a submission from Suzanne Duvall and she sent in a recording and it's really great. She makes a number of great points in it so we're going to insert that in here, in post production.
Suzanne: Hi you guys, I am just thankful for this opportunity to tell you how thankful I am to you guys for all you've done in my life for the past almost 20 years. My name is Suzanne Duvall and I used to be Suzanne Thunder and everybody thought that was a radio name because I am in radio and have been for, I don't know, 25 years, but it was my married name at the time that I first quote-unquote met you guys in the early aughts. Me and my husband, Scott, worked in Nashville radio, alas not Lightning 100; the station is irrelevant. But what I constantly listened to was WRVU, the Vanderbilt station, and that's how I first heard you guys. Specifically it was right after 9/11 about a week after, a few days after. And my siblings, my beloved siblings were stranded in Europe where they had gone to tour and they were in Europe when 9/11 happened and I heard "Cathedrals" and it just floored me. It was so melancholy and so wistful and so perfect and I thought, I need to know who this is and I need to get to know this band. So, of course it was you guys. I bought Magazine and I saw that you rocked too! Which was so much fun. The first concert I ever saw was in Nashville, first Jump, Little Children concert, with my erstwhile husband, who was named Thunder, like I said. And we were going through a divorce but it was amicable so I dragged him to the first ever concert that I saw of you guys. And I've since seen you so, so many times. But you were essential to my life at that time because I was going through the divorce, like I said, and also coinciding with that time in my life, I was starting to train for marathons. I'd been a jogger for many years but I decided I was going to train for marathons and I bought a little iPod and you guys got me through those long, long training runs, you know, 20 mile training runs. And you, in my ears, was a blessed thing indeed, and got me through so many long, hot miles or long, cold miles depending on the season. And since then that was the, that was 2004 when I ran my first marathon. After listening to you guys in my iPod and for training for every marathon after that, you were very prevalent in my iPod all the time. Your whole oeuvre was in my ears. And I have since run 35 marathons since then, my last being Boston this past spring. And although I'm stepping down from marathons and only doing half-marathons and shorter runs, you're still in my iPod. And, so thank you. I didn't want to get off track. Thank you so much for being there for me when I was going through the divorce and for training for the marathon. And then being a part of the community. I love being a fangirl at my age. I won't tell you how old I am but I'm probably older than a good part of your fanbase and I love them all. I love the tribe that I belong to, of Jump, Little Children fan people. I just love that. I love being part of Opium3 and being on the Patreon. And oh, it was so thrilling when you guys came back out with new music and the Charleston concerts! Most of the concerts I had seen of you in Nashville, well all of them at either Exit/In or 3rd & Lindsley, but finally made it down to Charleston for concerts. I wish you guys would come to Louisville, because that's where I live now, but no matter. It was always a wonderful thing to drive down and see you in Charleston. And one more thing, I did see you guys in Nashville at a record release party you gave at a record store for, I believe it was, Between the Dim & the Dark when that came out. And I went to see you when you, you did a little set, a very small, little set. And it was so cute because I was probably the oldest person there. And there was a clutch of us fans listening very respectfully to you and very silently. And I wanted to, like, jump up and down and be all fangirl but they were so quiet and respectful that I thought I should follow suit. But I got the poster and still have it. Anyway I'm going on too long. This is almost 5 minutes. I just love you guys so much. I love the tribe I belong to. I am so thankful for the happiness that you have brought me in my life. Every time I'm feeling sad or just blue I listen to you guys or watch the Biv Brothers and I'm happy again. So thank you. I am just more thankful than I can say for you guys and for the fanbase who are my Jump brothers and sisters.
M: I was really glad someone sent a recording. That was fun.
A: Yeah. Yeah it was really great. Overall I'm glad we got these submissions that we did. I would want to point out that for whatever reason they're all from women. [laughter] Maybe men don't -- there's, obviously there's probably about a 70-80% majority of women fans and I was wondering if you would get any from men but maybe the men just aren't grateful. [laughs] No, I mean, no. [laughter]
M: Tune in for our next episode where we explore why men are not grateful for Jump. [laughter] A: Or the men just don't want to talk about their feelings. They don't want to admit to being grateful for Jump, Little Children.
M: Aw, come on, guys. Guys, y'all can talk about things. It's ok.
A: That's another thing too, though, like, what is the difference between grateful and thankful?
A: And they're somewhat synonymous but not completely. I'm using them interchangeably just to shake things up, but for Thanksgiving you're supposed to be giving thanks.
M: Yep, it's not Grategiving.
A: Yeah, it's not Gratefulgiving. Or Grategiving.
M: Gratefulgiving! [laughs]
A: It's just weird. I mean, I'm thankful and grateful, so. But yeah I did find that to be pretty funny that it was all women replying to this. So, you know, put that in your pipe and smoke it! I was going to say something, although I've said this on at least what feels like all of the episodes, that one reason I'm thankful for them is right after my father passed, I've already gone into that before though. But that really is a big, big a huge cornerstone of my second wave of Jump fandom experience, if you will.
M: Oh yeah.
A: But I have already gone into that in prior episodes. You can include that.
M: Have I ever said why I'm thankful for Jump, Little Children?
A: I don't think you have.
M: I don't think I have either. And I don't know how to put it into words.
A: That's valid! That's valid to not quite know how to express one's thankfulness. Or gratefulness, if you will. To sum up we are very thankful and grateful for Jump, Little Children. And it looks like for December things will be quite busy so, in many respects they'll be quite busy, so I don't think we'll necessarily have a December episode but if we do it might include us talking in line at a show or something like that?
M: Something weird. [laughs]
A: Or it might be something very short along those lines. But I guess we'll see!
A: I guess we'll see. And hopefully we'll be seeing some of you at shows next month. You got anything else to add?
M: Not really!
A: I guess that's about it. We're just all so thankful and happy Thanksgiving, everybody!
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